tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007591824923611901.post104783231223399924..comments2024-03-22T11:36:21.889+00:00Comments on North-East History Tour: Durham Cathedral & the Dunbar Martyrs (NZ273421)HistoryMickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00516020259231967938noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007591824923611901.post-45053068633734566142017-03-14T20:29:33.133+00:002017-03-14T20:29:33.133+00:00Thanks for your input, Laurie. Yes, it's alway...Thanks for your input, Laurie. Yes, it's always absolutely right and correct to put things into context, of course - and to consider the sheer practicalities of the situation at the time.HistoryMickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00516020259231967938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007591824923611901.post-38675768511667710512017-03-07T19:09:48.862+00:002017-03-07T19:09:48.862+00:00That Story has been regurgitated for 365 years. Fo...That Story has been regurgitated for 365 years. For 295 of those years, it could have been excused.<br />One thing it does is to say that the 5,000 men were of no value. Deserted by their army, abused by Cromwell's men.<br />Let me start by saying that Sir David Leslie, the Scottish Commander was 45 days into 30 days' Provisions. And let us say that he fled the field with an army which was still greater than Oliver Cromwell's worn out 8-9,000. He had approximately 13,000 men with him. 'The Proper Soldiers'.<br />East Lothian was in Famine. Scorched Earth by Leslie and the lack of men to produce crops made it so that Cromwell had to feed people in the surrounding area.<br />Please remember that figures are very hard to ascertain. If you read the State Papers of Venice for September third 1650, you will be told that Cromwell had been defeated and the King was on the way into England with 50,000 troops.<br />Numbers of the dead on the Battlefield vary from 1,600 to 3,000. Hesilrige says that there were an estimated 3,500 men counted at Berwick Upon Tweed but only 3,000 counted into the Cathedral. Some were left at Newcastle for being too sick to walk and that group seems to have surfaced, ready to go and work in the Fens. Others went directly into the Castle/Palace which was an infirmary.<br /><br />What you should do now is look up Sir Arthur Hesilrige's letter to the Committee of State for Scotland and Ireland.<br /><br />At first reading, you will feel like me.. A complete load of old Cobblers!<br /><br />But you may not have heard about the Allied Prisoners of the Japanese on their release in 1945. Terrible privations, starvation, tropical diseases, dysentery, Beri Beri.<br />And then people tried to feed them and they died. Later, a feeding regime was devised and men began to improve but some, who seemed healthy would die.<br />They called it 'Refeeding Syndrome' and it is still as dangerous as it was 365 years ago.<br /><br />If Hesilrige had fed the men in the manner stated, thinking to bring them to health so they could join the Protestant Army in Ireland, he would have killed them. He didn't have the skills and the surgeons he employed only knew about Leeches.<br />The top geezer in Science of the Day was Isaac Newton. He was working on finding the Philosopher's stone!<br /><br />I think that the lack of food immediately available meant that the men had to be marched South. To have just let them go would be criminal. They would have ransacked the locality for food and then, if they rejoined the Army, Cromwell would have to fight them again. Another Forced march that nobody talks about is when Cromwell freed the conscripts of Hamil;ton's army in 1648.<br />They didn't dare go alone because of feared reprisals by the Fierce Northern English. Cromwell gave them an escort and Force Marched them to the Border.<br /><br />Why bother to march men to Durham when just a couple of hours slaughter would have rid Cromwell of the problem.<br /><br />Read about Leslie at Philiphaugh and Newark castle. There's the way to treat prisoners!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08838547513339869059noreply@blogger.com